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Post by Clappy 3/18/2011, 10:36 pm

Warning: The following posts contains crying, whining, complaining, and lots and lots of rambling


Introduction

I know. All you guys out there must be rolling your eyes right now saying, "Ugh. Another rant where some noob b****s about how Spongebob Squarepants isn't clever or funny anymore? WHEN WILL IT END?!!?" To be honest, I'm pretty sure it's not gonna end anytime soon, especially if Spongebob Squarepants keeps going down this road. However, this isn't a rant as my previous statement might have somewhat implied. This is more of a review butI decided to make my opinions come across to you in awell thought out, engaging and accuratemanner where I will try to stay away from the same old tired biased statements. You've seen enough of it as it is and quite frankly, so have I. Now before I begin, this review isin no way, shape or form to speak for anyone BUT myself. This is also not to attack anyone who still likes Spongebob Squarepants. All I'm trying to do isto give my opinions ina way that doesn't mirror the same annoying rants and noobs that can't explain anything past their deep sense of nostalgia that'sworth acknowledging.So with that said, let's get started.


Synopsis


Before I begin my review, I would like to give a synopsis that reflects my own view on Spongebob Squarepants and less in a historical context along with the main reason why I believe it isn't good anymore.

To me, Spongebob Squarepants was not just a cartoon with original plot elements, a vast plethora of iconic characters with widely appealing characteristics and humor that appeals to both childrenand adults, or at least that's what it once was, but it was a clever marine representation of modern day society that most people could relate to. Not only that, it also has basic cartoon traditions that are timeless and have been popularized in the last century adding to it's appeal.Basically, everything represents some kind of inner mechanism of modern day society in some sort of way. A happy, eager, energetic and optimistic young lad that embraces the world with a good attitude, loves hislife, loves his family and friendsand is a joy to most of the people he's around. That's what Spongebob always was for me. That's what he represented; an admirable person who always brightens up the room and puts a smile on someone's face. That's why I always liked Spongebob and I believe that's how the Spongebob Squarepants viewers of my generation viewed him as well. That's why I felt pain when he felt pain, why I felt joy when he felt joy. That's because I can RELATE to him. As I mentioned earlier, I believe Spongebob Squarepants is a representation of modern day society that follows basic, non-overbearing styles of humor that adults can easily relate to as well as kids. That's why I believeSpongebob Squarepants became the poster boy of Nickelodeon. That's why I believe it's the greatest cartoon of the 21st century and I'm sure some of you will agree. Of course, I'm referring to Spongebob Squarepants between seasons one through The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie.

Now that I've told you how I used to feel about Spongebob Squarepants, how do I feel about "Spongebob Squarepants?"?

"Spongebob Squarepants?" is an unbearable, insufferable, unendurable, inexcusable, unpardonable, indefensible, unjustifiable, deplorable, reprehensible, awful, appalling, abysmal, atrocious abomination that spits in the face of its former glory and the new writers don't seem to care to live up to what made it popular in the first place. (Yes, it's the writers' faults. I know how convenient it is for people to keep saying that, but, it is indeed, the writers' faults. There was a thread on the forums called "Discuss the production of Spongebob Squarepants" created by Srenfro. It's on page 3 I believe. Anyways, it discusses how the episodes are made and I posted a comment on how the writers can be held responsible for the show's decline in quality even to the point where one of the users agreed with me. You can make that decision for yourself, but I'm pretty sure you'll agree it's the writers' faults, too.) Why is it so bad you ask? Because it makes no attempt to go back to its original roots; the reasonsthat made Spongebob Squarepantsbecome so popular. Instead of it being a clever representation of modern day society that appeals to both kids and adults through it's realistic yet abstract personification of real life and it's humor that has worked for so many cartoons in the past, thus making it even more appealing to adults who appreciated them, it seems to be the exact opposite. Now, it sucks all the humanity out of it and awkwardlyadds in humor the reflects random aspects of comedy( iCarly anyone?) that not only fail to reflect anything to do with what Spongebob Squarepants and what it's supposed to represent, but they're awkwardly introduced themselves making it hard for the viewers to connect with the story or process what's going on because it's out of nowhere basically. There's no time to laugh because we have to think why we should laugh. ("We" meaning the people who agree with me at this point) But, the thing that gets on my nerves so much is how the characters have changed for the worse, not because they don't reflect how they used to act back in the day, but because they act like weird fish people from another dimension and not human. Technically, they are weird fish people from another dimension, but they fail to reflect on normal human behavior and how people act nowadays. This severs all connections the show could have with the show's audience. Like I've said numerous times, they're not just cartoons; they're representations of modern day society added with memorable styles of humor which attracts the attention of adults and children.

Now that my synopsis is done, I should get on to the next parts. What?! Next parts? I know some of you might think I've done a great job explaining my opinion and that should be it done, right? Nope. Unfortunately, I have to consider the fanboys as well. They'll most likely require proof that what I'm saying is accurate. And quite frankly, I agree with them. Though I've explained why Spongebob Squarepants sucks nowadays, for most of my reasons, I haven't given specific proof or instances. So I plan to do so in each of the following categories:

- Basic Appeal

- Humor

- Characters

This where I will end Part 1. I should have the rest soon.


A few days of the nostalgics praising Chris Crocker for having the cahonies to make such an overkill thread



I. BasicAppeal

As I've said before on numerous occasions, Spongebob Squarepants is more than just a cartoon for kids. It's a cartoon that gives people a panoramic view of modern day society. The job of the characters is to point out the inner mechanisms of modern day society through their actions and torepresenta specificinner mechanism. Their actions and characteristics appeal to children in terms of humor but they provide something much more for the adults. The show is almost satirical in a way as it pokes fun at what makes up society. Seeing the way some of the characters act almost reflect onhow some people act in real life and the adults can appreciate and make connections with the show. Take Mr. Krabs for example. Some adults that see him can make connections with him because by seeing the way he acts to his employees and takes extreme measures to save money is an exaggerated example of how their boss at work acts. The adults can learn to appreciate Spongebob Squarepants because of his optimism and they can learn to become more optimistic in return to tackle on life's oppositions with a better attitude and think less about themselves and more of other people. The way the shows connects with people makes up a vast fan base of nearly every demographic. That's how Spongebob Squarepants became an icon, a household name, a worldwide phenomenon known to all cultures and all seven continents. Because of its appeal. Still don't believe me? Ask yourselves this. Why do YOU think Spongebob Squarepants became so popular around 2000, around the time the show started?

When the show entered into its second season, the show transitioned to digital ink and paint, practically the only majordifference the show has ever encountered, except of course forDerek "Dry"mon becoming executive producer. Do you honestly think when you ask people why they like Spongebob Squarepants, it's because of the style of animation? If you were to go into a classroom full of kindergartners why they like the show, I guarantee you not one of them will say they like it because of all the color and brightness that digital ink and paint provide. To be fair, if you would ask adults the same question, the likelihood of that answer coming up would increase, but not by much. Some adults who watch the show probably would appreciate the animation style, but more as a plus.

Also, in 1999, Spongebob Squarepants wasn't really selling that much merchandise. A Spongebob Squarepants ruler, backpack, DVD or video game was unheard of and would have been considered the worst idea ever. But in 2000, Spongebob Squarepants, merchandise started selling like crazy. But of course, it would have to get that way if the show got popular. The popularity of a show is almost always because of how a show is originally set up. Sticking to it's original style of appeal is what makes a show popular and maintains its popularity.

So if that's the case, why is Spongebob Squarepants still so popular despite the fact that I just said it doesn't stick to its roots anymore?

That was a question that I thought some of you may have at this point as the show should be less popular now. Well the answer is obvious. Children are the biggest viewing demographic of the show. In most cases, they won't appreciate the purpose of the show and will be more interested in seeing Squidward falling off a cliff into a vat of molten glue and not sitting down and thinking as to how it relates to anything relevant to its original purpose. That's the case with most cartoons. The kids will be sitting cross legged with their faces pressed against the television screen because of their anticipation for Spongebob screaming at the top of his lungs parading around in his underwear all over town much to the disgust of the more sane patrons around him.

But, during the show's better years, Seasons 1 -3, the appeal to the adults along with the appeal to the kids made Spongebob Squarepants, the success it is today. Without it, I believe Spongebob Squarepants wouldn't be as popular as it is today. Without it, it would have joined the Nicktoons timeslot of abandoned shows that just didn't make the cut like The Mighty B!.

II. Humor

When we like a show that's supposed to be funny, we often describe it along the lines as "a great comedy with lots of funny humor". But what kind of humor? As some of you know, there are different genres of humor. There's satire, surreal, etc.. But what kind of humor does Spongebob Squarepants use? Spongebob Squarepants uses, or used to use, two different kinds of humor. Surreal and adult humor. Now that you know that, just what is surreal and adult humor? Surreal humor deals with events that go against common reasoning and often include being put in awkward or unrealistic situations, people acting strange and just being plain silly. The humor's effectcomes from departing the audience from what they expect to happen. It's a very common style of humor and is almost synonymous to cartoons themselves. As for adult humor, it's humor that is founded on the use of innuendos and satire that ties into "adult" topics the society deems not suitable for children. By looking at these types of humor side to side, they can be seen as polar opposites.

So why would two styles of humor that are polar opposites work well in the same show? Simple. Opposites attract. In this case? Viewers. The humors of the show tie back into the appeal. The same thing applies to how adults are drawn into the show. So with that said, it can almost be perfectly understood as to why the humor doesn't attract adults anymore and how the surreal humor only draws kids. But it gets even worse. The surreal humor has been amplified to the degree where I can't even tell if what I'm looking at represents what I believe is Spongebob Squarepant's original purpose; to provide people with an inside look into the inner mechanisms of society while appealing to children through tame use of surreal humor and appealing to adults through the subtle use of adult humor. In short, everything is so silly now. The characters are constantly put in the most ridiculous situations that they really don't reflect on society and real life occurences that adults can relate to. To exaggeratereal life occurences and everyday happeningsa little bit is okay, but to bend reality too far will create indifference for the mature audience. It will appeal to the kids and draw more ratings, but that won't stop the show from digressing into mediocrity. Now that I've told you all this and have given my explanation far from normal expectations, it's time to, hopefully, silence the fanboys by giving specific instances to support my "blasphemous and ignorantclaims".

The best example I can give is the episode "Mid-Life Crustacean".In the episode, we see that Mr. Krabs is depressed. At this point in hislife, he goes through the phase commonly known as "mid-life crisis". Already, the play on words can get the adults laughing because they know the internal purpose of the title itself. Then, there are jokes about bran, satire of the stereotype of elderly people having digestion problems which appeals to adults because of the likelihoods of being aware of that stereotype over kids, going out partying, getting that "wild, crazy and hot-blooded feeling" and panty raiding. Kids generally won't understand all of that but the adults are more likely too. But, the kids will more likely appreciate the surreal humor rather than the internal innuendos and pop culture references tied into the episode.

How about another example, fanboys? How about the episode, "Your Shoes Untied"? Spongebob is watching television, with great interest I must add. Something that looks like coral flopping around when Gary comes in and Spongebob awkwardly changes the channel. Now seeing as most, if not all, of the people who come on the Spongebob Squarepants forums are teenagers now who grew up with the show in its earlier years, I don't think it's necessary to explain how that little side gag appeals to adults. If not, don't bother asking.

Now that I've covered how surreal humor and adult humor tied into Spongebob Squarepants, now it's time to show how the overbearing surreal humor in "Spongebob Squarepants?" makes the show horrible and not just in driving away the adults.

Take a look at the episode, "A Pal for Gary". We see the classic situation "wolf in sheep's clothing" scenario where the offender takes on the alias as an innocent bystander incapable of doing things that cause harm which often puts the person trying to prove their alias a front in trouble with a force that exceeds their power. Okay. That's been done before. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? A little tweaks here and there and the involvement of the show's original purpose(I'm done with repeating it so if you want to find out what it is, look back in the "Synopsis" section of the review then come back here) should be okay, right? But no. That'd be too boring, right? So now, instead of the "wolf in sheep's clothing" wanting to just put the victim in hot water, it now wants to eat the victim or something like that. It's apparently a big giant monster that wants to eat Gary, in this case, and adds keeps adding in more surreal humor every thirty seconds by making Gary avoid it by doing "funny" things and him using a collar to drive the creature out of Spongebob's house by imitating a western show he saw on TV. If the episode took on a more classic, moral approach, then it probably could attract adults too because of how it might have mirrored an incident that happened in their own lives, i.e. a younger sibling deemed incapable of causing any trouble by the parents takes advantage of his dubbed innocence by putting the older sibling in trouble just for his own amusement. It's a very common occurrence between siblings which explains how effective it would be to establish connections with adults.

But now I want to go into side gags. Side gags, are very important to a cartoon because they keep the flow of the episode going. When referring back to cartoons or certain episodes of a cartoon, most people will bring up side gags. Some are so popular they even create internet memes such as "It's Over 9000!!!" and "It's a Trap!". In Spongebob Squarepants's case, I couldn't find a more perfect than "The Chocolate Guy". Remember? "CHOOOOOOOCOLAAAAAATTTTEEEE!!!!!!!!!!". But what exactly makes side gags so effective? Personally, I don't know how they relate to other cartoons that much, other than Chowder, Tom & Jerry and a few others, but for Spongebob Squarepants, there are three things that make their side gags effective:

a. Relation with the current setting/plot and/or situation

If Spongebob was walking down the street while going to work and a giant half tarantula, half lion creature suddenly came down and swooped him up in their arms, swallowed him, then spit him back out after Spongebob has hallucinations of playing checkers with a piece of toast onto the street and he instantly goes on his way as if nothing happened, would you think that's funny? Honestly? No need for that much explanation there. But in case you're either a fanboy who's still not convinced or you're one of those people who STILL don't get it, allow me to offer you an example.

In the episode "Your Shoes Untied", we see Spongebob frantically asking around for people to tie his shoes with each person getting more absurd than the last until we finally come across the last person in the side gag, the painting who is seen in the Spongebob Squarepants opening.

See? It has relations to the current situation; Spongebob Squarepants wanting his shoes tied. Even if the side gag is surreal, the viewers can most likely laugh at it because of how it relates to the current situation. Still don't get it? Oh well. I'm moving on.

b. They realistically, yet surreally mirror the inner mechanisms of modern day society or just don't use so much surreal humor to begin with

The side gags in Spongebob Squarepants are, in most cases, funny because they don't take things to far. By not using so much surreal humor in the side gags, I can connect with the plot. I don't have to scratch my head, or in this case afro, wondering what's going on because I know right away. For example, look at the episode "Chocolate With Nuts". We see Squidward going in Fancy! wanting to be fancy. The waiter informs him that the entire restaurant got rented out by Spongebob and Patrick and took dates with them. STOP!!! Got your attention, right? Good. Before I continue with the side gag, let's take a look at people who have money in real life. They go to the fanciest restaurants, have the most expensive houses, ride the best cars, and date/marry the most attractive women in the world. Alright, let's continue. Then we find out that the dates were the two old women from before who Spongebob and Patrick tried selling chocolates, too. The kids laugh because of the absurdity of two old women getting dates and the adults laugh because they don't expect two old women going on dates based on what they experience in real life. Just that one side gag creates connections with children and adults and does an effective job at it. It's surreal enough for the kids and has adults laughing because they can relate to the side gag without being overwhelmed by too much surrealism.

c. Build-up

Like with my previous example of a side gag that wouldn't work( Remember? The one with the half lion, half tarantula thing?)a side gag will not work if there is no build up to it. Like a ghost story around the campfire. Would a story that literally goes, "A ghost came from the woods and ate the children. The End.", be called scary? Come on, fanboys, be honest. If a side gag shows build up, then it will be more effective. If not, it's not gonna be good because although it's unexpected, there weren't previous events in the episode that hint the side gag's occurrence.

Now that I've explained how side gags work in Spongebob Squarepants, instead of showing you an example that is effective, I'm going to show you one that isn't effective. However, it will fail at all three categories instead of just one. Eat your hearts out, fanboys.

In "The Great Patty Caper", we first see Patrick and Spongebob interrogate "the butler" about the whereabouts the missing key. Then a random fish walks in, looks up at the moon and turns into a werewolf and runs off screen. If I have to explain why this doesn't have any build up at all, how it has any relation to the current story or how it uses too much surreal humor to establish any connections to an audience outside of children, then I don't even know why you're even reading this.


And Chris Crocker never got around to finishing his complaining. Btw this has been copied and pasted directly from tv.com in case anyone was wondering


So does Afro Boy have a valid point for those who took the time to actually read all this?
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Post by Steel Sponge 3/18/2011, 10:45 pm

I tried to resist my urge to respond on TV.com, but I failed. But I'm voicing my opinion when I finish reading that load of text.
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Post by Clappy 3/18/2011, 10:51 pm

Btw Steel, just thought I'd forewarn you that I edited your post since cursing isn't allowed in the SpongeBob section Wink
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Post by Metal Snake 3/18/2011, 11:06 pm

Wow, that review was half-baked, and made absolutely no sense. Seriously, that guy needs to get a hobby.
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Post by that70sguy92 3/18/2011, 11:33 pm

tl;dr

Sounds annoying.
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Post by Wumbology 3/19/2011, 6:24 am

Clappy wrote:"Spongebob Squarepants?" is an unbearable, insufferable, unendurable, inexcusable, unpardonable, indefensible, unjustifiable, deplorable, reprehensible, awful, appalling, abysmal, atrocious abomination
Thesauruses are so much fun.
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Post by Clappy 3/19/2011, 10:55 am

Wumbology wrote:
Clappy wrote:"Spongebob Squarepants?" is an unbearable, insufferable, unendurable, inexcusable, unpardonable, indefensible, unjustifiable, deplorable, reprehensible, awful, appalling, abysmal, atrocious abomination
Thesauruses are so much fun.
I know right? I thought so too when I read that portion xP
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Post by storytime7 3/19/2011, 2:27 pm

Did anybody actually read all this? xD Silly Face!
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Post by Face 3/27/2011, 1:07 pm

that70sguy92 wrote:tl;dr

Sounds annoying.
^ This. I don't like to read annoying whiny posts, especially ones that are uber long like that. Anyone care to give a short summary for us? lol.
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Post by Girlygirl24 3/27/2011, 9:16 pm

storytime7 wrote:Did anybody actually read all this? xD Silly Face!

No Silly Face! but that guy sounds ANNOYING!!
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Post by OMJ 3/28/2011, 12:30 am

Clappy wrote:A few days of the nostalgics praising Chris Crocker for having the cahonies to make such an overkill thread

FAIL. He spelled cojones wrong.
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Post by Wumbology 3/28/2011, 6:56 am

Face wrote:Anyone care to give a short summary for us? lol.
BAWWWWWWWWWW
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Post by Clappy 3/30/2011, 2:09 am

¡¡suıʞuǝɾ ʎoɹǝǝl wrote:
Clappy wrote:A few days of the nostalgics praising Chris Crocker for having the cahonies to make such an overkill thread
FAIL. He spelled cojones wrong.
I could have sworn I spelt cahonies/cojones right.....drats -_-
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Post by ducksauce 8/26/2011, 7:02 pm

You've got to be real passionate about SpongeBob to appreciate what this guy is saying.

I totally agree with everything you've said mate. Everything you've written down reflects my thoughts and feelings about SpongeBob spot on. Its sad really; Spongebob, is in my opinion one of the greatest cartoons to ever hit television, a true classic. Now its straight up garbage. Long live the the before seasons of Spongebob before it turned into this whack comedy! Even the animation in the older episodes are more preferable compared to the ones now.
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Post by tvfan95 8/26/2011, 7:38 pm

I read it all.
In certain parts I really agree. When talks about building up a joke, I perfectly see what he is saying. A joke needs time to develop, has to have at least some coherence to the plot and needs build up to truly make us appreciate the punchline.
One part however that he really seems to love bringing up, I really don't see. He acts like the main source of humor comes from the fact that apparently every character is relatable. What is this, Seinfeld? The characters were good and had well-developed, timeless personalities. But I didn't "relate" to them. I can't think of a single joke where I meant "haha that's happen to me!" or "LOL I know a guy who acted just like that!". Unless I'm missing his point, it seems like an invalid point.
He's also too harsh. Unbearable, insufferable, unendurable, inexcusable, unpardonable, indefensible, unjustifiable, deplorable, reprehensible, awful, appalling, abysmal, atrocious abomination? Um, dramatic much? It's not very good nowadays, but I wouldn't even be that harsh on most of my most disliked shows.
Decent review, some good points, but far from perfect, and nothing TOO original said, mostly the same old stuff only much longer.
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Post by JCM 8/26/2011, 11:43 pm

tv.com is the bomb

chris crockers everywhere

and yet spongebob is still the highest rated nick show on the site
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