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Post by Dragiiin123 on 8/2/2010, 12:57 pm

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Re: Abortion

Post by Wumbology on 8/2/2010, 1:02 pm

Most "choose life" people piss me off. I once saw a poster that said "Don't be pressured... Choose life." So... you're telling us not to be pressured while pressuring us? Great logic.

On abortion itself, I think that ultimately, it's the potential mother's decision. No one else should be allowed to decide for her. If I was in the situation, I would probably have my baby and put it up for adoption. But given that I have a Y chromosome, I will never be in that situation, and if I happen to be the cause of someone's pregnancy, I will leave it up to her.


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Re: Abortion

Post by SpongeSebastian on 8/2/2010, 2:12 pm

Health issues and rape cases are what make me support abortion. Sure, I think if people would be more responsible with how they have sex, there would be less need for abortions, but we need to realize that already-living people are more important than unborn people.


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Re: Abortion

Post by that70sguy92 on 8/2/2010, 4:18 pm

For both of her pregnancies, Sara was very seriously considering abortion. We very closely gave Nick up for adoption. But we decided to keep both.

Anyways, I think abortion is fine. It's not killing anyone, like some believe. I know, I'm Catholic. I should be going "IT'S SO WRONG! MURDER!" but this is the 21st century. Not everything is black and white. There are definitely just shades of gray these days. It's up to the mother and the father, despite what Wumbology said. Well... if the father is involved. I was always raised to believe that even though it will just be the girl that is having the baby physically, she is not the only 'pregnant' one, thus it is the man's decision as well.




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Re: Abortion

Post by SG10 on 8/7/2010, 12:34 am

that70sguy92 wrote:For both of her pregnancies, Sara was very seriously considering abortion. We very closely gave Nick up for adoption. But we decided to keep both.

Anyways, I think abortion is fine. It's not killing anyone, like some believe. I know, I'm Catholic. I should be going "IT'S SO WRONG! MURDER!" but this is the 21st century. Not everything is black and white. There are definitely just shades of gray these days. It's up to the mother and the father, despite what Wumbology said. Well... if the father is involved. I was always raised to believe that even though it will just be the girl that is having the baby physically, she is not the only 'pregnant' one, thus it is the man's decision as well.
I'm also Roman Catholic (but if you've scanned my profile, you should already be aware) Sadly, my prenatal education and church lock-in experiences force me to reproach. Sure, abortion is parents' verdict, but a fetus does kind of embody life (It develops after all). Plus, wouldn't it be simpler and less emotionally impacting to have the baby be introduced to the world and then be open to adoption?
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Re: Abortion

Post by Elastic Dog on 8/7/2010, 6:33 pm

CRUSH BABY SKULLS

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Re: Abortion

Post by ExKizuna on 8/7/2010, 6:44 pm

Santa Dog wrote:CRUSH BABY SKULLS

THat was not funny at all.


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Re: Abortion

Post by tvguy347 on 8/7/2010, 6:53 pm

I'm a Christian and honestly, an abortion is a big decision for the mother and father. Do I believe in it? No. If you have sex and a baby is the result, that is the mother and father's choice to break their virginity. I don't believe you should the baby should be killed because of the parent's lousy decision to make love. Condoms are also a solution.




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Re: Abortion

Post by Elastic Dog on 8/7/2010, 7:01 pm

I don't see the issue with it. I doubt killing an unborn infant would cause the fetus pain.

Which reminds me...

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Re: Abortion

Post by ExKizuna on 8/7/2010, 7:55 pm

Santa Dog wrote:I don't see the issue with it. I doubt killing an unborn infant would cause the fetus pain.

Which reminds me...

Of course, because, ya know, taking away life from something expecting to live happily is the best thing in the whole fucking world. >.>


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Re: Abortion

Post by Wumbology on 8/7/2010, 8:07 pm

tvguy347 wrote:I'm a Christian and honestly, an abortion is a big decision for the mother and father. Do I believe in it? No. If you have sex and a baby is the result, that is the mother and father's choice to break their virginity. I don't believe you should the baby should be killed because of the parent's lousy decision to make love. Condoms are also a solution.
What about rape?

Santa Dog wrote:Which reminds me...

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Post by tvguy347 on 8/7/2010, 8:11 pm

Wumbology wrote:
tvguy347 wrote:I'm a Christian and honestly, an abortion is a big decision for the mother and father. Do I believe in it? No. If you have sex and a baby is the result, that is the mother and father's choice to break their virginity. I don't believe you should the baby should be killed because of the parent's lousy decision to make love. Condoms are also a solution.
What about rape?
Abortion would be the solution. Adoption isn't a good option in my opinion either. If the child grows up and is not given a family, it would put him/her through trauma being without love and family.

Santa Dog wrote:Which reminds me...

You make me regret suggesting this subforum.

Wumbo: Abortion would be the solution. Adoption isn't a good option in my opinion either. If the child grows up and is not given a family, it would put him/her through trauma being without love and family.


Santa: Dude, be more mature.




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Re: Abortion

Post by that70sguy92 on 8/7/2010, 9:29 pm

tvguy, you made a comment about condoms. They are not always reliable, nor is birth control. And there are rare cases where pregnancies take place without actual penetration, as well as rape. There, the parents and their choices don't have much to do with it. And you're mixing up adoption with foster care.




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Re: Abortion

Post by SG10 on 8/7/2010, 10:25 pm

ExKizuna wrote:
Santa Dog wrote:CRUSH BABY SKULLS

THat was not funny at all.
ikr? Sorry, Santa, but...
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Post by tvguy347 on 8/8/2010, 2:21 am

that70sguy92 wrote:tvguy, you made a comment about condoms. They are not always reliable, nor is birth control. And there are rare cases where pregnancies take place without actual penetration, as well as rape. There, the parents and their choices don't have much to do with it. And you're mixing up adoption with foster care.

First off, THANK YOU for spelling my name right and not capitalizing the "t" like "Tvguy." Condoms aren't always reliable, but it's better to try and use them instead of saying "Screw it," and then having an abortion. I don't think an infant shouldn't be granted life because some man is to lazy or doesn't see the use to at least wear the condom. They may not always be reliable, but better to have worn it than not do it at all and deny the infant life.




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Post by Dragiiin123 on 8/8/2010, 7:23 am

tvguy347 wrote:
that70sguy92 wrote:tvguy, you made a comment about condoms. They are not always reliable, nor is birth control. And there are rare cases where pregnancies take place without actual penetration, as well as rape. There, the parents and their choices don't have much to do with it. And you're mixing up adoption with foster care.

First off, THANK YOU for spelling my name right and not capitalizing the "t" like "Tvguy." Condoms aren't always reliable, but it's better to try and use them instead of saying "Screw it," and then having an abortion. I don't think an infant shouldn't be granted life because some man is to lazy or doesn't see the use to at least wear the condom. They may not always be reliable, but better to have worn it than not do it at all and deny the infant life.
WELL Tvguy, you have a nice point.
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Post by ExKizuna on 8/8/2010, 1:07 pm

Dragiiin123 wrote:
tvguy347 wrote:
that70sguy92 wrote:tvguy, you made a comment about condoms. They are not always reliable, nor is birth control. And there are rare cases where pregnancies take place without actual penetration, as well as rape. There, the parents and their choices don't have much to do with it. And you're mixing up adoption with foster care.

First off, THANK YOU for spelling my name right and not capitalizing the "t" like "Tvguy." Condoms aren't always reliable, but it's better to try and use them instead of saying "Screw it," and then having an abortion. I don't think an infant shouldn't be granted life because some man is to lazy or doesn't see the use to at least wear the condom. They may not always be reliable, but better to have worn it than not do it at all and deny the infant life.
WELL Tvguy, you have a nice point.
Yes, but he went on about shit with condoms when he ignored the rest of the shit 70s said =P


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Re: Abortion

Post by tvguy347 on 8/11/2010, 1:41 pm

ExKizuna wrote:
Dragiiin123 wrote:
tvguy347 wrote:
that70sguy92 wrote:tvguy, you made a comment about condoms. They are not always reliable, nor is birth control. And there are rare cases where pregnancies take place without actual penetration, as well as rape. There, the parents and their choices don't have much to do with it. And you're mixing up adoption with foster care.

First off, THANK YOU for spelling my name right and not capitalizing the "t" like "Tvguy." Condoms aren't always reliable, but it's better to try and use them instead of saying "Screw it," and then having an abortion. I don't think an infant shouldn't be granted life because some man is to lazy or doesn't see the use to at least wear the condom. They may not always be reliable, but better to have worn it than not do it at all and deny the infant life.
WELL Tvguy, you have a nice point.
Yes, but he went on about shit with condoms when he ignored the rest of the shit 70s said =P

That's true. XD




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Re: Abortion

Post by AMK152 on 8/16/2010, 11:10 am

Abortion should be banned except in cases of dangerment of the mother's life and in cases of rape.

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Post by storytime7 on 8/16/2010, 1:52 pm

I think abortion is wrong, sure they're cases where the mother was raped but still scientists piss me off with their "it's not a baby it's a fetus" shut the fuck up it's a baby and how would you feel if you're parents told you they considered going through with an abortion? Also for the people that have sex and then say I can't raise a kid maybe you shouldn't of had sex in the first place or just have the baby and give it up for adoption, how dare you consider having an abortion you definetely wouldn't make a good parent if that thought even crosses your mind for even a second. I'm Catholic so it's against my religion but even if I wasn't how could you rob that babies shot at life what makes you more deserving of a life than that baby, what if that baby grew up to be president one day and brought world peace, well I guess for the people that do think it's right to go through with it then it was also okay for the terrorists to blow up the world trade center cause apparently you're okay with murder, it's not natural and in my opinion it truly is murder and whoever does it should be locked up for life.
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Post by Wumbology on 8/16/2010, 3:04 pm

The terrorists blowing up the world trade center could have easily been aborted.

Just sayin'.


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Post by Fa on 8/26/2010, 7:36 pm

I believe abortion is wrong in most situations. I mean, yes there are exceptions I think (rape for example) but I think if some girl gets pregnant after partying or something like that, or a couple just wants to "take the next step and do it", then it's wrong because they know the risks and they need to go through with it and realize what they did wrong and such. Sorry if I'm sounding kind of harsh about this, it's just my opinion.
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Post by Metal Snake on 10/10/2010, 1:02 am

SBlover95 wrote:I believe abortion is wrong in most situations. I mean, yes there are exceptions I think (rape for example) but I think if some girl gets pregnant after partying or something like that, or a couple just wants to "take the next step and do it", then it's wrong because they know the risks and they need to go through with it and realize what they did wrong and such. Sorry if I'm sounding kind of harsh about this, it's just my opinion.

I agree with you and tvguy. And Santa Dog, that was extremely immature.
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